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Edited 5 months ago

I… am slowly realizing that I might have reached the absolute cap on PC upgrades.

Like, I’m not even sure how to check if my Motherboard would handle any more upgrades.

(Or, really, what the bottleneck is. Both my CPU (i7 6700K) and my GPU (GTX1060 6GB) are fairly old at this point.

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Although from a brief look, uh, the difference between my CPU and the highest CPU on the Intel B150 Chipset is… 4%.

That’s not a great start lmao. I probably need a new Mobo at this point, which also means I’d need a new CPU and GPU which is kind of a lot. I doubt I can reuse.

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Actually, if the more PC-Smart people of the Weblyg could help me (instead of me, who’s PC Fake-Smart) it’d be much appreciated. My PC components are a good 10yo at this point so its probably a good idea to at least start looking for upgrades, even if that means upgrading my mobo.

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@Sacchihikaru are you looking at clock speed or actual benchmarks? because clock speed has mostly stopped going up (sometimes it goes down for power reasons), it’s mostly pipeline and parallelism improvements making things faster now.

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@wenchcoat Actual benchmarks, yeah. Or rather I’m using CPUbenchmarks the website as reference.

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@Sacchihikaru Honestly depends on what you’re trying to do with it. What kind of games and software do you run, and what size is your monitor? The 6700K is a solid processor even these days. Generally speaking, if I were you I’d start with a newer graphics card and see if you’re satisfied with the performance for a few more years- and if not, you can keep that GPU when you upgrade to a newer motherboard down the line.

(also worth noting- if you happen to have less than 16GB of RAM or have your OS installed on a hard drive rather than a solid state drive, improving either of those things will make a pretty big difference in day-to-day usability, and some games will benefit heavily)

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@Sacchihikaru the old GPU should still work with a new mobo, but it probably will be a bottleneck

you almost def will need new memory though (unless you pick smth that uses the same type)

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@triangle-dog I’m running 24GBs of DDR4 RAM, and my OS is on my SSD, yeah.

My monitor setup is one 1080p and one 720p TV from the PS3 days that miraculously still functions. I’m not trying to do anything crazy, really, I just want to get consistent 60fps on 1080p on more modern stuff, but my GPU basically couldn’t run Alan Wake 2 due to being too old to support a specific shader type, for example.

I’m noticing too that FFXIV is often dipping below 60fps and my GPU is often maxed out, although I do run some mods so that’s definitely part of why, but the graphics update is the big culprit.

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@adam is DDR4 largely phased out by now? ‘cause that’s what I use.

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@Sacchihikaru Having had a very similar system (7600k and 5600XT) a GPU upgrade will go further here, although that CPU might start to hit limits on some newer games because of asset compression.

If I had to pick one, bumping up to a 3060/4060-ish or 6700XT tier GPU would probably be my choice, and you'd get the majority of that performance and line yourself up for a good upgrade in a few more years.
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@Sacchihikaru it’s still being used, but tbh you might actually want a ddr5 mobo for better future upgrade paths

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@adam @Sacchihikaru This is true, but if your budget won’t support that right now you’ve also still got a lot of room to grow within systems that support DDR4. A used AM4 motherboard and a 5700X3D or 5800X3D ought to give solid value and hold up well in games for years to come

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@triangle-dog @Sacchihikaru yeah, that’s true, AM4 is still going strong (and also tbh I recommend AMD in general, their CPUs are better in pretty much every way imo, and also they don’t have the socket mess that intel has with their CPUs)

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@Sacchihikaru Yeah, I’d definitely be on the lookout for a better graphics card first then! That’ll give you an immediate improvement in gaming, and you can save up for a solid motherboard/CPU upgrade without it being as pressing. I had an RTX 3060 Ti for the past year and was pretty happy with it, only upgraded because of some specific needs for a particularly demanding game I enjoy. Got it used (as a good deal at the time since it had a busted fan) for $220 USD July 2023, as a price reference- looks like that’s still about what they go for used on eBay in the US right now (but in good condition rather than needing repair).

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@triangle-dog Managed to find an RTX 4060 for a decent price during black friday, so now I just need to make sure my PSU can handle it (preliminary research tells me I’ll need 650W), and there’s enough space inside the case (it… doesn’t seem to be much larger than the 1060 6GB, so I doubt I don’t have the space, but always better to double check, I guess).

My mobo is running pcie3 iirc so it will get bottlenecked but at least it will be decently futureproof.

Hopefully swapping GPUs also finally fixes the DPC_Watchdog_Violation problem I’ve been having since forever.

Thank you for the help!

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